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were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be "the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam"? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge -- >> are you answering the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. >> well -- >> i would like the answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no answer on a lot of things. >> well, let the record show you refused to answer that question. now please go ahead. >> well, if you would like me to explain why -- >> i actually would like an answer. yes or no? >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. i think it's far more complicated than that. >> senator mccain and a lot of republican washington is banking on the lesson learned from the iraq war, being that we should have started that war, we should have escalated that war, we should have kept that war going, and now ten years on our only regret about the iraq war should be that we're
were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be "the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam"? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge -- >> are you answering the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. >> well -- >> i would like the answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elaborate. >>...
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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam, was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well there you have it, joy, your thoughts? you're younger, you've been through it, you studied it in school, i lived through it, but it's the weirdest thing, it looks like a flashback. is it really about the surge? i'm still trying to figure out the anger here. >> these guys both served, as you said, chris, they were actually good friends, brothers in arms in the senate. john mccain seems to be a man who is tormented. he's tormented by these demons that have to do with the things that he was denied. he was denied the presidency. so he couldn't stand george w. bush. he was denied it again, so he couldn't stand barack obama and can't stand anyone that barack obama nominates. and the surge was something that was his. i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief. and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam, was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well there you have it, joy, your thoughts? you're younger, you've been through it, you studied it in school, i lived through it, but it's the weirdest thing, it looks like a flashback. is it really about the surge? i'm still trying to figure out the anger here. >> these guys both served, as you said, chris, they...
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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well, there you have it. joy, your thoughts. you're younger, you've been through it, you lived through it in school. mccain is so angry. is it really about the surge? what is it? did they yell at each other in the cloak room? i'm trying to figure out the anger here. >> these guys both served as you said, chris, they were good friends in the arms and the senate. john mccain seems to be a man who's tormented hchl's tormented by the demons that have to do with the things he was denied. he was denied the presidency, so he couldn't stand george w. bush. he was denied it again and can't stand barack obama or anyone he nominates. in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander in chief and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. i watched that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and patrick murphy, the former pennsylvania congressman who served in iraq. both o
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well, there you have it. joy, your thoughts. you're younger, you've been through it, you lived through it in school. mccain is so angry. is it really about the surge? what is it? did they yell at each other in the cloak room? i'm trying to figure out the anger here. >> these guys both served as you said, chris, they...
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policy means to me is anytime i see a bipartisan consensus in foreign policy i run head long in the opposite direction. there was an authorization against use of force and there was one men that voted against it and that's what precipitated the next step. there was this moment in the hearing -- i have to show this moment in the hearing where it was out of a movie where he had said something wrong and was handed a card to correct himself. i want to play that when we get back. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. living with moderate to semeans living with pain.is it could also mean living
policy means to me is anytime i see a bipartisan consensus in foreign policy i run head long in the opposite direction. there was an authorization against use of force and there was one men that voted against it and that's what precipitated the next step. there was this moment in the hearing -- i have to show this moment in the hearing where it was out of a movie where he had said something wrong and was handed a card to correct himself. i want to play that when we get back. twins. i didn't see...
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policy, the secretary of state executes the foreign policy. influences his foreign policy, at the end of the day, i think you saw hillary clinton as somebody who did what he wanted her to do as secretary of state and was a effective player nor t player for him in the world. what does it say about 2016, joe biden is clearly positioning himself for 2016, president obama will have a hard call to make if it's joe biden versus hillary clinton at somebody in 2016, he may stay out of it. he probably wanted to just say thank you. >> i want to play a clip for you, it struck all of us and so i want to share it with both of you. this is 15 years ago, this weekend. take a look and listen. >> but i want to say one thing to the american people, i want you to listen to me, i'm going to say this again. i did not have sexual relations with that woman, ms. lewinsky, i never told anybody to lie. not a single time. never. these allegations are false and i need to go back to work for the american people. thank you. [ applause ] >> molly, do you remember that? do y
policy, the secretary of state executes the foreign policy. influences his foreign policy, at the end of the day, i think you saw hillary clinton as somebody who did what he wanted her to do as secretary of state and was a effective player nor t player for him in the world. what does it say about 2016, joe biden is clearly positioning himself for 2016, president obama will have a hard call to make if it's joe biden versus hillary clinton at somebody in 2016, he may stay out of it. he probably...
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. >> and caryn, you've been covering the foreign policy as well as the domestic policy. this "60 minutes" interview, the joint interview, was pretty extraordinary on the face of it, but as we enter this last week of hillary clinton's tenure, the president is basically saying, you know, thank you, thank you, thank you for everything you've done. >> yeah. and she has been i think in many ways -- there are not a lot of sort of big monumental tangible accomplishments of her tenure as secretary of state. in many ways she was successful as much because of what she represented, but the history of second terms is that foreign policy becomes much more important, that presidents travel more, that they often engage more with the rest of the world, and i think that given the set of events we're looking at overseas, that is very likely to be the case of president obama's second term. foreign policy almost wasn't even almost mentioned in this election, you know, until benghazi at the very end. i think that, again, i think it's going to become much more a part of the maretive in the se
. >> and caryn, you've been covering the foreign policy as well as the domestic policy. this "60 minutes" interview, the joint interview, was pretty extraordinary on the face of it, but as we enter this last week of hillary clinton's tenure, the president is basically saying, you know, thank you, thank you, thank you for everything you've done. >> yeah. and she has been i think in many ways -- there are not a lot of sort of big monumental tangible accomplishments of her...
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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well, there you have it. joy, your thoughts. you're younger. i lived through it. it looks like a flashback. mccain is so angry. is it really about the surge? what is it? did they yell at each other in the cloakroom? >> they both served, as you said. they were actually good friends. they were brothers in arms in the senate. you know, john mccain seems to be a man who is tormented. he's tormented by these demons that have to do with the things he was denied. he was denied the presidency, so he couldn't stand george w. bush. he was denied it again so he couldn't stand barack obama and can't stand anyone that barack obama nominates. and the surge was something that was his. i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief, and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing or that part of the hearing with colonel jack
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well, there you have it. joy, your thoughts. you're younger. i lived through it. it looks like a flashback. mccain is so angry. is it really about the surge? what is it? did they yell at each other in the cloakroom? >> they both served, as you said. they were actually good friends. they were brothers in arms in the...
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foreign policy is. u.s. foreign policy for the last four years has been shamed around wars. it's been shamed around military responses to the foreign policy challenges around the world, starting with the iraq war. we now have the state department being in charge of the 15,000 or so armed contractors, if we want to be polite, mercenaries if we want to be a little more accurate, that are in iraq at the behest of the united states because the agreement between the u.s. and iraq made them withdraw all the soldiers and all the pentagon paid contractors. they were replaced by hillary clinton's guys. we don't hear that. that's not under hillary clinton's actual jurisdiction. it technically is, but in the real world that's not what she's responsible for. the key parts of foreign policy now are afghanistan, israel/palestine. none of these are places where hillary clinton can say that's what i did. >> josh. >> large contractor footprint in iraq, no question about that, but not entirely accurate to say replaced. it's not a one for one replacement. >> we had 100,000 before under the pen
foreign policy is. u.s. foreign policy for the last four years has been shamed around wars. it's been shamed around military responses to the foreign policy challenges around the world, starting with the iraq war. we now have the state department being in charge of the 15,000 or so armed contractors, if we want to be polite, mercenaries if we want to be a little more accurate, that are in iraq at the behest of the united states because the agreement between the u.s. and iraq made them withdraw...
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foreign policy of the obama presidency. >> yeah. you know, ed -- >> and andrea. >> i want to get to andrea in one second. you look at the pictures of barack obama, first african-american president, still, you know, if you had said ten years ago, it would still be shocking. you have hillary clinton sitting next to him. odds-on favorite to be the first female president. you look at those two figures, you look at their approval ratings, barack obama, building the '70s, hillary's approval rating up in the 60s. and then you look at where i was this weekend, "the national review" had a great weekend where they were talking about the future of conservatism. i say it was because it was so constructive. but i'll tell what you, if the economy keeps getting better over the next three years, you've got hillary linton rclin running three years from now, we republicans have such a major headwind in our face for the next three years. it's going to be tough. >> yeah, there's no question. but there's so many variables. >> go ahead. >> no, so many va
foreign policy of the obama presidency. >> yeah. you know, ed -- >> and andrea. >> i want to get to andrea in one second. you look at the pictures of barack obama, first african-american president, still, you know, if you had said ten years ago, it would still be shocking. you have hillary clinton sitting next to him. odds-on favorite to be the first female president. you look at those two figures, you look at their approval ratings, barack obama, building the '70s, hillary's...
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. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no. >> my reference to the surge being the most dangerous -- >> senator hagel, the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. i would like the answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. >> so it feels like the senator is still fighting the iraq war there. who do you think, alice, looks worse in the exchange between the two men? >> well, clearly hagel. he couldn't put up a good defense for his position in that particular area. this is one area where he just clearly didn't understand what his record was. he first was for the iraq war and then he was opposed to the iraq surge, saying it was a terrible blunder on the part of the u.s. when in fact it worked. he also had trouble answering questions about where he stands with israel. he has failed repeatedly in the past senator to show solidarity with o
. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no. >> my reference to the surge being the most dangerous -- >> senator hagel, the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. i would like the answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a...
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and the difficulties in articulating a broad set of foreign policy goals. that is infinitely compounded given the state of play and also changing leadership in the middle east. give us the latest from egypt where things are certainly in a state of turmoil. what's your read on how this affects president morsi's grip on power. >> you know, when the news came out, it is importantly linked to the united states because the defense secretary here, or the minister of defense, the head of the armed forces, came out with this statement saying that the country was on the verge of collapse. the state was on the verge of collapse if the country cooperate reconcile its political differences. now, why we say that's important is because the egyptian military receives close to $1.5 billion from the u.s. government. and hadz a close working relationship with the u.s. military. you get a sense of how important this state institution is to the overall affects here on the ground in egypt, and the kind of community that the u.s. has. it is a back door channel and an important o
and the difficulties in articulating a broad set of foreign policy goals. that is infinitely compounded given the state of play and also changing leadership in the middle east. give us the latest from egypt where things are certainly in a state of turmoil. what's your read on how this affects president morsi's grip on power. >> you know, when the news came out, it is importantly linked to the united states because the defense secretary here, or the minister of defense, the head of the...
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were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> when given a chance to respond, here is what hagel said. >> the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> that point found broad support in our latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll with nearly 6 in 10 americans saying the entire iraq war was not worth it. let's remember that the mccain/hagel grudge goes way back to comments, well, like these. >> well, i think our invasion and occupation of iraq represents one of the great blunters of american history, and we will pay a high price for this for a long time. >> now, that would be in march 2008. you remember, it's the year that barack obama won his first term as president defeating none other than john mccain. do you think mccain is still angry that hagel backed obama? holding a judge? no, never. if mccain played the betrayed besty, fel
were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> when given a chance to respond, here is what hagel said. >> the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> that point found broad support in our latest nbc news/"wall street...
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the two discussed their past rivalry, their current working relationship and american foreign policy. it was a public sign of solidarity between the two former rivals. yet that proved to be too much for the folks over at fox news. the "fox & friends" trio complained about the lack of real news, and attacked crawford for not digging deeper into clinton's health issues. >> the interview was awkward. they were giddy saying goodbye. and right at the top, steve kroft said they only gave us 30 minutes, which of course means there is not going to be any real news. and there wasn't. >> but if you give somebody 30 minutes, you could get real into it, especially steve kroft, who is usually awesome. but i think for some reason they didn't dig into anything at all. >> 30 minutes? come on. >> i would like to know, did she pass out and hit her head? was she pushed? how did she hit her head and get a concussion? >> and the whining didn't stop there. the network that served as the bush administration's head cheerleader is now taking issue with the questions asked of president obama and secretary clin
the two discussed their past rivalry, their current working relationship and american foreign policy. it was a public sign of solidarity between the two former rivals. yet that proved to be too much for the folks over at fox news. the "fox & friends" trio complained about the lack of real news, and attacked crawford for not digging deeper into clinton's health issues. >> the interview was awkward. they were giddy saying goodbye. and right at the top, steve kroft said they...
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this was the biggest foreign policy disaster since vietnam, where they both served. it's very personal. >> david, your thoughts. >> john mccain wants to start the conversation of iraq at the surge and not before that. and hell has no fury like mccain's scorn. it was very personal. it was very bitter. and he really was kind of a bully. he got back to his old crotchety man routine after having a few days in the bright sun on immigration reform. but i agree with howard. i think that chuck hagel did not fend very well those attacks. and they're going to have to come out really clearly in the next day or two to make up for that. >> all right. david corn, howard fineman, richard wolffe, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up, if you've w0rkd in the food service industry before, you've probably been stiffed on a tip one time or another. but you won't believe the excuse one customer got caught using. we'll show you that next. it's amazing. >>> like the ed show when you're there. we appreciate that. still to come, nfl playe
this was the biggest foreign policy disaster since vietnam, where they both served. it's very personal. >> david, your thoughts. >> john mccain wants to start the conversation of iraq at the surge and not before that. and hell has no fury like mccain's scorn. it was very personal. it was very bitter. and he really was kind of a bully. he got back to his old crotchety man routine after having a few days in the bright sun on immigration reform. but i agree with howard. i think that...
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i thought important the part about foreign policy. we've had situations in the past where we had wars with countries and then ended up being their friends. why don't we start being friends. to me, it was all about iran. there is only other country we're thinking about going to war, with it's iran. why fighting the people of iran? why kill a bunch of people iran because we don't like their nuclear program? he wants to avoid that. robin wright says if we don't take advantage of the weapon between now and when they weaponize, we will never have peace with iran it will be endless war with that enormously important country which could shake every part of our world. >> the favorite line? >> the courage to resolve differences with other nations peacefully, not because we are naive about the dangers we face, because engagement can more endurably lift fear. peace has durability. if you go to war, you go to war again. iraq one leads to iraq two. you keep going back and back and back. get caught in the quick sand. and he says i'm not going too d
i thought important the part about foreign policy. we've had situations in the past where we had wars with countries and then ended up being their friends. why don't we start being friends. to me, it was all about iran. there is only other country we're thinking about going to war, with it's iran. why fighting the people of iran? why kill a bunch of people iran because we don't like their nuclear program? he wants to avoid that. robin wright says if we don't take advantage of the weapon between...
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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong side of it. >> senator shaheen, i don't know what to make of that. it looked like badgering the witness. i mean, it was mccain with some vendetta against this guy. it looked personal. and i don't know what it had to do with his qualifications, his abilities, to simply pound away trying to get him to agree with john mccain on something mccain believes in. >> well, this was the longest hearing for a nominee that i have ever attended in my years here. i thought senator hagel answered as forthrightly as he could all the tough questions that were in front of him. i would hope we could all be respectful and be willing to give the witness an opportunity to answer when there are serious questions. i was pleased to hear senator hagel. i didn't ask him about the surge in iraq. i wasn't there for that interchange, but i was pleased to have him
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong side of it. >> senator shaheen, i don't know what to make of that. it looked like badgering the witness. i mean, it was mccain with some vendetta against this guy. it looked personal. and i don't know what it had to do with his...
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last friday's article described hagel as a "deeply embedded with a network of pro-iran foreign policy groups that have lobbied to lift economic sanctions and boost u.s. engagement with tehran." texas republican senator john cornyn offered a similar line of attack when he criticized the nomination on mon. >> i cannot support a nominee for defense secretary who thinks we should be tougher on israel and more lenient on iran. >> the group americans for a strong defense, didn't exist till this month. when it was set up apparently for the sole purpose of opposing chuck hagel. led by former rnc communications director danny diaz and romney visor brian hook the group is running is ads is urging democratic senators to vote no. >> barack obama's nominee for secretary of defense wants america to back down. an end to our nuclear program. devastating defense cuts, a weaker country. >> another group, american future fund has ads questioning hagel's ethics calling on the senate to post phone the hear. finally a group that purports to be coming from the left supported by members of the gay and lesbia
last friday's article described hagel as a "deeply embedded with a network of pro-iran foreign policy groups that have lobbied to lift economic sanctions and boost u.s. engagement with tehran." texas republican senator john cornyn offered a similar line of attack when he criticized the nomination on mon. >> i cannot support a nominee for defense secretary who thinks we should be tougher on israel and more lenient on iran. >> the group americans for a strong defense, didn't...
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committee sends its republican members to world net daily to go talk about foreign policy ideas, this is their world. this is not the fringe. this is where they live. governing the united states is a really hard job. representing the united states in the world is a really, really hard job. today john kerry was officially sworn in to take over that job from hillary clinton. and he got to what amounts from a really well informed warning from his predecessor about the difficulties of that job. the evidence-based world is a hard enough place to live and to operate for us as a nation without half of our domestic politics being dominated by the perceived desire to defend against the muslim obama jihad on ronald reagan's childhood home. are we hampered as a nation in our ability to address real problems in the evidence-based world if half of the people in politics do not live in that world? and if so, how does that get fixed? joining us now is chris hayes, who all of you will see again at 8:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow, because that's when he starts his show "up with chris hayes" here on msnbc.
committee sends its republican members to world net daily to go talk about foreign policy ideas, this is their world. this is not the fringe. this is where they live. governing the united states is a really hard job. representing the united states in the world is a really, really hard job. today john kerry was officially sworn in to take over that job from hillary clinton. and he got to what amounts from a really well informed warning from his predecessor about the difficulties of that job. the...
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policy and didn't hang out and support his friend and republican colleague john mccain. was there something personal there? >> there is always something personal in relationships between senators and chuck hagel is a former senator. i can't speculate on motives of each of the senators. they are probably different motives, an array of intent and purpose. i think there will be a vote this week in the committee, if not this week, next week, but soon. i believe there will be republican votes for senator hagel and if not in committee, at least on the floor. i believe he will be approved. i think the personal issues, hopefully, will be put behind us. most importantly, it will be a bipartisan vote. whatever the motives on a personal level, i hope partisanship is not part of this process as the american people watching that hearing may have concluded it was because the weight of the republican questioning, the prosecuting or crass examination aspect was so much on the republican side. >> do you agree with the old tradition that president's should be able to pick their own cabine
policy and didn't hang out and support his friend and republican colleague john mccain. was there something personal there? >> there is always something personal in relationships between senators and chuck hagel is a former senator. i can't speculate on motives of each of the senators. they are probably different motives, an array of intent and purpose. i think there will be a vote this week in the committee, if not this week, next week, but soon. i believe there will be republican votes...